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    1997 Saturn SL2 "Goldie" how original
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    Goal: Current goal, High/Mid 14 second N/A daily driver.

    Start Date: Fall 2004

    Planned End Date: November 2009 I bought a supercharged 2004 Chevrolet Impala Indy SS limited edition. As much as I loved aspects of the SL2 I didn't have time or money for two cars so it has been sold to fellow 6S board member michigansaturn http://www.sixthsphere.com/smf/index...profile;u=4369

    Car as purchased


    Fall 2004 completely bone stock with the exception KYB struts/Eibach springs.

    Chapter 1- It is what it is.

    Basic car info

    Car- 1997 SL2

    Purchased- Late summer 2002 as an automatic for $5000 with about 83,000 miles on it.

    Options as equipped at time of purchase-

    HN1- Option Pkg 2 (SL2) which Included: A/C, Aluminum Alloy Wheels, Cruise Control, Power Door Locks, Power Windows, Power Passenger Side Mirror.
    CF5- Power Sun Roof
    AU0- Driver Side, Electric, Key/Remote Activated Entry Lock Control.
    JL9- Brake System - Power Front and Rear Disc, Antilock
    K69- SL2 - Sedan, Saturn Level Two, w/ performance automatic transaxle
    MP7- Transmission - Automatic 4 Speed, Saturn, Electronic Converter Clutch
    NV7- Steering - Power, Variable Effort
    NV9- Traction Control - Powertrain Management
    UM6- Radio - AM/FM Stereo, Seek, Auto Reverse Cassette, Clock, Electronic Time Recall
    VK3- Front Mounting Package - License Plate
    33U- Primary Color - Exterior, Gold Metallic

    In 2004 I started to replace worn out OEM parts with performance parts after finding SPS online. The early goal was to have a fun street car. In early 2005 the original engine due to no fault of my own started to die. That started the project of swapping the auto for an MP3 and building the car into a 140whp, high to mid 14 second daily driver. Seeing I was starting with a Saturn and I wanted this project to be reliable and decent looking I was going to end up investing more money then I could ever hope to recoup if I were to sell the car. Now that I have met the 140whp goal and have exhausted the amount of easily found N/A parts I can put on it I am focusing on some custom pieces (well if I ever get more money).


    most recent photo


    Another angle.

    Some older pics (essentially the same look).



    My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
    Former Saturn Owner Alumni
    2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
    2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

  • #2
    [b]Chapter 2- The early days- AKA baby steps, baby knowledge, sometimes I didn't know what I was doing.

    These are pictures from 2004-2005 prior to any major work.


    A few weeks after the suspension was done a set of 15/6.5 Motegi MR7 wheels were added. E bay clunkers which I would later find weigh way too much for 15's, at that time Price>Function.


    Bone stock and dying engine with bolt on's. Notice the excessive amount of gasket maker on the cam cover, also the stickers add so much power.
    My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
    Former Saturn Owner Alumni
    2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
    2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

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    • #3
      Chapter 3- We learned a little and the serious work begins.

      So it turns out that used cars are just that USED! Sometimes those who used the car before you used the car in a fashion it wasn't intended for. After 60,000 good miles as a stock daily driver the stock engine started to eat and leak oil. I bought the car from a credit union and it turns out it was a repossession. People who don't pay their bills often skip oil changes and that was the story. Not knowing better during an oil change the engine was flushed and apparently along with the gunk the rings and bearings went with it.



      Enter engine #2! It was a Saturn factory remanufactured engine that I got a deal on. It remained stock with bolt on's for the rest of the winter until I started my trans swap project spring of 2006.



      Along with a low mile MP3 with a welded diff pin I also gathered these goodies just because i could.



      Adding roughly 45-50hp I felt the unnecessary need to add a bigger all aluminum radiator. Now it takes forever to get heat in the winter. This unit is a Speed Remedy purchased from http://www.coolradiator.com/

      The trans swap was done August of 2006 along with the new SDA head, cams, and intake manifold. A Super AFC was installed and a AEM WBO2 to help tune with. December of 2006 I tackled the lower end completing it over Christmas break. It emerged .030 over with 99+ hyper pistons, and 99+ OEM rods.

      While it didn't look too different from its former inception it did feel much better then the wussy, nancy, wu pie, stock with bolt on's engine.


      The money>power monster


      Goal met- 141.4whp N/A.
      My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
      Former Saturn Owner Alumni
      2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
      2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

      Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

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      • #4
        Chapter 4- Parts list
        As of October 2008

        Engine/Ignition/Exhaust:

        Saturn LLO 16 valve dual overhead cam engine.

        1997 Block bored .030 over
        (93+) 4 counterweight crank
        Sealed Power 99-02 hyperutectic pistons (stock comp ratio)
        99-02 OEM longer piston rods
        Hastings molly rings
        Clevite bearings
        SDA Stage 2 ported & polished cylinder head
        Stock valves (DuPont Viton valve seals)
        SDA power cams
        SDA full ported & polished intake manifold
        SPS big bore throttle body
        Fel Pro gaskets
        Injen IS short ram intake
        K&N crankcase breather
        OEM AC Delco ignition Coils
        Junky Bosch ignition wires
        NGK V-fire spark plugs
        Optima Red Top Battery
        OBX stainless steel exhaust header
        Magnaflow high flow catalytic converter
        Thermal R&D cat back exhaust
        Speed Remedy aluminum radiator

        Engine/Fuel Management:

        Apexi Super AFC II air flow converter
        AEM UEGO controller/WBO2 sensor
        1997 SC2 PCM
        Walbro fuel pump

        Drive Train:

        MP3 5-speed transmision (swapped from MP7 auto)
        ACT HD clutch pressure plate
        ACT street/strip clutch disc
        Fidanza lightweight flywheel
        Welded differential pin
        Prothane motor mounts
        SDA polyurethane TAM mount
        DasPirate short throw shifter

        Suspension: (sold off the SPS strut bar, having no money sucks [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/cry.gif[/img])

        KYB GR-2 struts
        Eibach pro kit springs 1.3"F 1.1"R drop
        SPS 16mm 3-wat adjustable rear sway bar

        Wheels/Tires: (traded the 3 good Heliums pictured for 4 12 slot sawtooths)

        15/6 Saturn 12 slot "Sawtooth" wheels
        205/55/15 Kumho ECSTA ASX tires

        Brakes:

        Powerslot Rotors
        EBC green stuff brake pads
        Goodridge G-Stop Stainless Steel Brake Lines

        Interior/Dress up:

        White face gauges
        AEM air fuel ratio gauge
        Saturn 10th anniversary black leather seats (front/rear)
        Black door panels (yet to go on)
        MOMO Airleather shift knob
        Customcargrills.com Battery Tie Down

        Exterior/Lighting:

        Saturn Tinted Sun Roof Visor
        Sylvania Silverstar high/low beams
        Clear Side Markers

        Audio (yea I don't have a "System"):

        Nothing is in the car accept wiring. Financial issues have forced me to sell the audio stuff. I am trying to figure out what I want for my next set up.
        My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
        Former Saturn Owner Alumni
        2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
        2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

        Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

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        • #5
          Re: Roundthirteen's Never ending build

          Chapter 3- random pics


          I am getting sick of seeing this.

          Tow record- (since rebuild) 4. Ball Joint, Starter, Ignition Module, broken brake caliper bolt.


          That's a first- Brake bolt snaps allowing caliper to come loose and punch a hole in my right rear wheel. $5 bolt takes out a $100 wheel.


          Another angle, same problem.


          Well at least it's not burning any oil this time. Bad timing cover seal.


          This is what a CV joint in need of replacement looks like.


          This could be caused by, or be the cause of wheel hop. Which came first??
          My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
          Former Saturn Owner Alumni
          2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
          2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

          Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

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          • #6
            Re: Roundthirteen's Never ending build

            Looks super clean. Good job.

            Also your images are not working.
            98 SL2m - Intake, Raceland coilovers, daily driver
            94 SW2a>m - slammed and boosted 9 PSI - sloppymechanics.com inspired. Now owned by Importsdontlikeme.
            94 SC2m - Build in progress, Ford EDIS, 720cc's, stock engine, MS2v3.57 7 on the road again

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            • #7
              Re: Roundthirteen's Never ending build

              Images are GoDaddy's fault. Sorry about that.
              Tristan
              1997 SC Turbo
              1999 F-250 Powerstroke SD
              1999 Cavalier RS

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              • #8
                Re: Roundthirteen's Never ending build

                Originally posted by tristanlee85
                Images are GoDaddy's fault. Sorry about that.
                Fixs'ed
                My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
                Former Saturn Owner Alumni
                2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
                2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

                Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

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                • #9
                  Re: Roundthirteen's SL2 will it be finished or parted first?

                  nice build Brian.

                  i remember when I first started out with my car, back in november/december of 2006, i sent Chris (KoolerSL2) a message on cardomain, asking some simple questions about building up my car. he replied with a link to your page, stating that my car looked exactly like your car a couple years back. after seeing yours and his car, it was then i knew, that my car was going to stick with me for a long time and that it was going to be like no other. (not sure if thats a good thing or not though, lol)

                  so, simply put, thanks.
                  '02 Mustang GT Convertible - 435rwph Kenne Bell Daily
                  '03 F250 6.0 Powerstroke Lariat CCSB 4WD - Tuned Rice Eater, Hauler
                  '99 F150 5.4 XLT 4WD - Hauler and Winter Beater
                  '88 Mustang GT - Abandoned - Parted Out
                  '97 SL2 - Back-Up Daily - SOLD

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                  • #10
                    Re: Roundthirteen's SL2 will it be finished or parted first?

                    Fall 2008 Picture and a junky cell phone Picture of the Saturn and the new Impala SS fall 2009.

                    My car's not a sleeper, it's a Hibernator
                    Former Saturn Owner Alumni
                    2004 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport Indy limited edition (S/C L67).
                    2008 Subaru Legacy GT spec B

                    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude. Alexis de Tocqueville- ~1840

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                    • #11
                      Re: Roundthirteen's SL2 will it be finished or parted first?

                      Originally posted by Roundthirteen
                      What it looks like as of fall 2008, anyone want to buy it? Make me an offer.
                      we spoke about this the other day and you can't allow this to happen lol.
                      - Nate

                      2001 SL2m - Just about everything BUT the boost. High comp./N20 motor on the way.
                      2000 SW2a - Newest member to the fold. .04 factory overbore.
                      1998 Chevrolet 1500 Heavy 1/2 Ton. - Overweight, underpowered, bored .04

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