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  • NEVER USE A FRAM OIL FILTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    so i heard a bunch of stuff about how bad fram filters are, and i had to change my oil today so i looked into it and found this...

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

    overview here...

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters.html

    so i got a purilator pure one and then cut open the fram extra guard that was on there. i dont know if it was damaged before i put it on the car or after but the filter was not sucured in place, it was just loose and free moving and riped. also the oil was very very dirty for changing the oil right at 3k
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  • #2
    I use K&N Gold. Kinda expensive but I think its worth it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HighEnd777
      I use K&N Gold. Kinda expensive but I think its worth it.
      +1
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      • #4
        I get my filters for free any brand I want. :twisted:
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        • #5
          omg...



          Warning!
          These pages are NOT to be taken as gospel.

          i use Fram and have no problems what so ever... XUP i think you just dont know what you gotta do... you gotta tighten it

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          • #6
            i've seen bad... real bad things happen with the k&n and the fram performer oil filters... did oil changes and tires for a year and a half so i've seen some f'd up shizit and more than often the "performance" oil filters were invovled in the problem

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            • #7
              I stick with the pureolater pure ones. I haved used them for years. If you are worrie about the loss in oil flow, then use the poer one filter that goes on the SRT-4 Its the same filter, but longer.

              The truth is, you don't need alot of oil to flow threw...heck, how long does an engine go before it will seez up from having no oil (drain oil and not put any in).It will go alot further then you think, and that is just with the little bit of oil that is left on the bearings... now add just enoug oil to replace that oil every 1-2 seconds is all it really needs.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by linefire
                i've seen bad... real bad things happen with the k&n and the fram performer oil filters... did oil changes and tires for a year and a half so i've seen some f'd up shizit and more than often the "performance" oil filters were invovled in the problem

                I have only seen issues with te fram ones, but the K&N ones were always good based on my research, and experience, which you might think is not that much at all, but I have changed my fair share of oil in cars. I remember seeing that the inside of a fram pretty much broke down and the filter got lubricated into the engine and clogged the pump too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TURRRBOOO
                  I stick with the pureolater pure ones. I haved used them for years. If you are worrie about the loss in oil flow, then use the poer one filter that goes on the SRT-4 Its the same filter, but longer.

                  The truth is, you don't need alot of oil to flow threw...heck, how long does an engine go before it will seez up from having no oil (drain oil and not put any in).It will go alot further then you think, and that is just with the little bit of oil that is left on the bearings... now add just enoug oil to replace that oil every 1-2 seconds is all it really needs.
                  I totally agree, nice putting it Sam.

                  I also use the purolator one. Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep only use 3 basic filters for there whole line up. Exclusion of the Crossfire (It uses a Mercedes Benz filter, go figure.) The long filters the SRT's use also fit onto the V6 mustangs. Its quite fun to see what you cna do with old filters. I have ripped apart a old and new filter and my opinion is the factory filters are the best IMO. Besides Purolator works very close with all manufacturers particurally cuz almost all the filters come from only a couple major companies and the "manufacturer" puts there naem on it. Kind of like oil and gas, it all comes from the same palce.
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                  • #10
                    i use the walmart brand filter. think it is called supertech or something like that.
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                    • #11
                      pure one is what the camaro always had.... and frank.. if i can find the pictures of the k&n on any of my backups i'll post... we had to photograph the filters and document twice to have the engines replaced... one was a 4.6 mustang and the other was an intrepid i think... it was dodge and green might of been a stratus

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                      • #12
                        I use the basic ones too. I changed the oil in that car so often, it just was not worth the expense of the higher priced ones lol.

                        I have never had any problems. I have also used Frams in the Ford with no trouble. That's interesting.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sl2racer
                          i use the walmart brand filter. think it is called supertech or something like that.
                          the walmart here doenst have that, they just have fram and mororcraft (made by fram), i know cuz i regretedly have to buy my oil there cuz all the autoparts stores cary shell rotela t but not the synthetic. then make a second trip to get my filter at advanced.

                          use the basic ones too. I changed the oil in that car so often, it just was not worth the expense of the higher priced ones lol.

                          I have never had any problems. I have also used Frams in the Ford with no trouble. That's interesting.
                          i will see if i can get some pics, basicly there was no filtration going on at all, it was falling apart so bad that the oil would have had to go out of its way to get filtered, and the oil was BLACK!! and it was dead at 3k.

                          also the fram cost 3 bucks at wal-mart and the pure one cost 5.35 at advanced so i can get a filter that i now know is crap and everyone says is crap or i can spend 2.35 extra and get the one that sae says is the best and is arguably considered the best by most poeple. the peice of mind alone is worth the 2.35 to me



                          also if i find somehting that says says the K&n filter filters better then i might try the k&n sometime, but i dont care about flow cuz i dont have a turbo or anything, im not buying damn english wrenches tho lol if i use one that damn filters coming off with a filter wrench if it likes it or not
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                          • #14
                            purolator ftw. id take that over a fram or a new delco (they reduced the filter area) any day and or a wix never had a problem with a wix

                            and ill say what i said over on tsn if you use amsoil and amsoil filters do not preoil the ring put the fucker on dry.

                            at belle tire we had issues with them coming off we called them up and they said do not preoil the ring. after that problem stoped

                            i used fram for a while in the ion cuz thats all i could get besides the stp and well i dont like stp
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                            • #15
                              ive never had troubles with ac delco, motorcraft, and wix filters. of course motorcraft i think is basically a purolator. but i do like the ac delco and wix filters (easier to find in napa brand). i have also used k&n gold, but not sure on it as it was used for 2000 miles before car was smashed.
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