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    Hey everyone.
    As someone who is newly interested in car modifications, I'm still on quite a steep learning curve. Here's what I know (or think I know)...

    On a FWD vehicle, it is better to have stiff springs to help decrease weight transfer to the rear of the vehicle on hard acceleration. This in turn keeps more traction on the front wheels. Traction = good!
    The lower the car is, the lower the center of gravity, which improves handling.

    Am I correct in these statements? Also I'm curious to know what sort of negative effects lowering my car, say, 2 - 2.5 in would have on ride dynamics?
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    <br />Alain

  • #2
    a lil rougher ride maybe. but what you said ^^^^ sounds good to me
    Originally posted by ECOtec Gods
    Consider this: 800 hp is a lot on a 2.0L motor. With 750hp, three-quarters of a thousand you're basically dealing with 6.14 hp per cubic inch. Pressures and stresses of all kinds thermal and mechanical loading across the board escalate to extreme levels. A Chevrolet 5.7-liter LS1 V8 with this much specific power (horsepower per cubic inch) would be making 2,137 hp

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    • #3
      Originally posted by AC66Bronco
      a lil rougher ride maybe. but what you said ^^^^ sounds good to me
      maybe? it is rougher, but after awhile you get used to it.
      [color=red]-Tyler[/color]<br /><br />2005 Chevy Trailblazer<br />1999 Saturn SL2<br />2002 Suzuki Bandit 1200

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sl2fast
        Originally posted by AC66Bronco
        a lil rougher ride maybe. but what you said ^^^^ sounds good to me
        maybe? it is rougher, but after awhile you get used to it.
        its all relative to what your used to [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif[/img]
        Originally posted by ECOtec Gods
        Consider this: 800 hp is a lot on a 2.0L motor. With 750hp, three-quarters of a thousand you're basically dealing with 6.14 hp per cubic inch. Pressures and stresses of all kinds thermal and mechanical loading across the board escalate to extreme levels. A Chevrolet 5.7-liter LS1 V8 with this much specific power (horsepower per cubic inch) would be making 2,137 hp

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        • #5
          I would not go lower than 1.5-2.0" on an s-series. you get to a point where it will have an adverse effect on handling.
          -Vinny

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          • #6
            And yes, stiffer springs do help with traction, but have good tires.

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            • #7
              at about an 1.5+" i think it gives a slight disadvantage on a straightaway first and second gear the car shakes alot because of the axles
              I THOUGHT SATURNS WERE SLOW

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              • #8
                actually it was more around 1.8-2.0" drop that you're talking about
                -Vinny

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                • #9
                  So a 1.2-1.4" ish drop won't affect straight line performance much (negatively)?
                  - Justin [s]99 Blue SL2 - T3/T4 14psi[/s] (dead)


                  FS: Pimped lower trans mount, TiAL 38mm Wastegate, Gauge Cluster, Oil Drain

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                  • #10
                    nope, I havent seen anyone complain up to 1.75"
                    -Vinny

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Schizzo97SC2
                      I would not go lower than 1.5-2.0" on an s-series. you get to a point where it will have an adverse effect on handling.
                      Bah its all in your heads. I dropped mine with extremes even bagged it and handling didn't feel any different. I guess it's just me I put the extremes back on and love it...
                      Steven
                      <br />[quote author="Saturntuner05"] haha, s-series owned a redline.[/quote]<br />[quote author="koolkash_45"]so ive heard from different people and different forums that when you change the water pump you to pack it with vasoline. what is the point of this because i read the how to an SF and i also downloaded the FSM's how to from PR and neither said anything about packing it.[/quote]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nyce
                        Originally posted by Schizzo97SC2
                        I would not go lower than 1.5-2.0" on an s-series. you get to a point where it will have an adverse effect on handling.
                        Bah its all in your heads. I dropped mine with extremes even bagged it and handling didn't feel any different. I guess it's just me I put the extremes back on and love it...

                        I noticed NO negative effects when I put the extremes on mine. I loved it and it handled awesome!
                        Jeff W.
                        Old Fella Nobody Remembers

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                        • #13
                          I love my eibachs and the baby does too.
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                          • #14
                            What are your roads like? If they are bumpy and rough, than eibach would benefit you more in straight line(less bounce and more traction). Smoother roads and Sprint would be a better choice(don't have to worry about bounce, so more traction). It really isn't what other people run, because their roads could be different.

                            Don't forget your front and rear sway bars. Springs are only 1/3 of the equation for keeping tires down. You won't fully enjoy the springs until you get the bars in, and vice versa.
                            Fixing a Saturn can be like reaching into a bag of scorpions and hoping for the tootsie roll.

                            AMR coilovers w/pillowball mounts, AMR FTB, AMR RST, Quaife, ACT clutch, HR con rods with JPC max bore pistons, Thermal exhaust, Hotshot header, AEM CAI, and I just want to run around tearing my cloths off, screaming beligerently, and spitting, and twitching, and foaming; because its finally done.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jamie Q.
                              What are your roads like? If they are bumpy and rough, than eibach would benefit you more in straight line(less bounce and more traction). Smoother roads and Sprint would be a better choice(don't have to worry about bounce, so more traction). It really isn't what other people run, because their roads could be different.

                              Don't forget your front and rear sway bars. Springs are only 1/3 of the equation for keeping tires down. You won't fully enjoy the springs until you get the bars in, and vice versa.
                              I agree I wouldnt go passed 2". Depends on where you live and what kind of roads. Where I live every intersection has dips for rian. If I threw on a body kit and dropped it 2.5" I woulds be able to drive it.
                              Kevin
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                              <br />I dont even Have a car yet...What am I doing here?...Research!!!

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