Advice from the experts?

[Shin0bi]

Well, I've decided that I want to buy a 96 SC2 and tune the heck out of it so that I can put some Saturns on the map up here.

Even with a N/A build, I know the car will haul ass, but I'd reallly like to blow people away, so I'm considering going with a forced induction setup.

I have talked to Mike at Alpha Tuning, and he was extremely helpful. I'm definitely considering going that route because I have only heard good things about their kits. But I've also been toying with the idea of supercharging the car. Problem is, nobody I know of makes a supercharger kit. I've heard that a supercharger setup will be much easier to fabricate.
Any opinions, or advice?

[sl2racer]

alpha tuning? isn't that the guy that did don bakers turbo kit? or it might have been sps. hmm i don't remember know. whating for sam or jay to chime in.

[slowion2]

alphatuning is mike (boostedsl2), you're thinking of SMS who did Don's kit, something alpine whatever. injector before the turbine inlet FTL

I'd definitely work with Mike if not Sam and a few others.

IMO, a supercharger isn't going to be any easier than a turbo will be, both have their ups and downs.

[omgitselvisc]

Re: Advice from the experts?

Even with a N/A build, I know the car will haul ass, but I'd reallly like to blow people away, so I'm considering going with a forced induction setup.

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[Shin0bi]

Re: Advice from the experts?

Even with a N/A build, I know the car will haul ass, but I'd reallly like to blow people away, so I'm considering going with a forced induction setup.

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Here's what I figure. A Stock '96 SC2 weighs 2360 lbs.
By removing the back seat, spare tire, and perhaps the rear seatbelt systems, I've saved myself 60-80 LBS. That brings me right around 2300 lbs or less.

Then, I get a CAI, headers, full exhaust, underdrive pulleys, ported TB, and some ignition mods, tune it all up with an SAFC-2. I'll easily get about 160hp out of that. (and some people tell me I can probably squeeze out even more)
Now for some math.
To calculate the weight to power ratio, I take the 2300 lbs, divide by 160 hp. I get a weight to power ratio of 14.35. A Honda Prelude's weight to power ratio is at best 14.5 lbs / horse, and nobody can deny that preludes are fast.
Couple this with a limited slip diff, stiffer suspension, aftermarket struts, short throw shifter, motor mounts, lightened flywheel, and act6 clutch...

There's no question my car will be fast, without needing to be forcefed.
(I realize that "fast" is a relative term, so let me just clarify that my goals are modest. I'm not trying to run with Camaros or 350z's)

[djgeo05]

http://www.scdyne.com/old/index.html
supercharger kit^^^

http://www.streetdesignauto.com
^^^^
14 second something all motor

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

Re: Advice from the experts?

A Honda Prelude's weight to power ratio is at best 14.5 lbs / horse, and nobody can deny that preludes are fast.
Couple this with a limited slip diff, stiffer suspension, aftermarket struts, short throw shifter, motor mounts, lightened flywheel, and act6 clutch...

Prelude's aren't fast.

Anywho, you probably will get something closer to 135whp with everything you listed.

If you want your car to not be slow, you're going to have to run some type of forced induction system. They all work, and all have pros and cons.

[AC66Bronco]

stay away from scdyne.

and its HEADER [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/mad.gif[/img]

[Shin0bi]

Yeah I've heard only bad things about SCDyne
and thanks for the correction. I always make that mistake.

[Shin0bi]

Re: Advice from the experts?

A Honda Prelude's weight to power ratio is at best 14.5 lbs / horse, and nobody can deny that preludes are fast.
Couple this with a limited slip diff, stiffer suspension, aftermarket struts, short throw shifter, motor mounts, lightened flywheel, and act6 clutch...

Prelude's aren't fast.
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They are pretty zippy man. They just suffer from having a torqueless engine. Though, again, the term fast is relative...

You figure only 135 WHP with those mods?

[Shin0bi]

How long does a turbo kit take to install?

[djgeo05]

stay away from scdyne.

whats up with them? why are they bad?

[Shin0bi]

stay away from scdyne.

whats up with them? why are they bad?

Apparently their workmanship is sub-par and alot of people have had their money taken from them without receiving the product.

[slowion2]

stay away from scdyne.

whats up with them? why are they bad?

garbage parts, no research, pretty much take the money and run situation. long story short: stay away.


you're going to be lucky to make 125-135whp with that setup, and maybe maybe a high 14 second car. the quickest n/a cars turn mid to low 14's and that's it. that's not fast, that's quick. if you want something fast you're looking at the wrong platform.

if you want something quick, look into turbo or a nitrous setup, and don't be a cheap ass or it will bite you in the ass in the form of massive engine failure soon after you get it running.

[omgitselvisc]

the only way to get power out of an LL0 / ecopenis is F/I

N/A you'll spend wayyy too much money for too little results.