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  • turbo redline swap

    ok i had to do it...i couldn't find it mentioned anywhere...
    i want to buy a 04 redline and put a custom turbo setup on it. i imigine the bolt patterns are the same (correct me if i'm wrong) so i'm gettin a intake mani and tb etc. from the 2.2 to replace the sc. than runnin all the pipin etc. havn't found where i want to get the turbo mani from yet tho. i imigine i can find a nice one somewhere since the eco is in like 27 cars. i figure i can run somewhere between 15 and 20 psi. Some peeps runnin 15 psi on the sc already. anyone wired an apexi afc onto an ion or redline yet?? hopin to get close to 300hp
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    bolt patterns should be the same as a 2.2.

    if I was you, I would look into getting as much of the 2.0T hardware as you can that Saab uses.

    you wouldn't be able to really run over 15 psi from the research I've done with the plastic intake manifold.

    seriously, you need to do a lot more reading before you even attempt this. perhaps on redlineforums.com or some of the cobalt SS/SC forums since those are the same car.
    -Vinny

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    • #3
      Its crazy that the 2.0T is rated only 5 hp higher than the Redline.
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      • #4
        super small turbo, restrictive ass IC and IC piping, super small exhaust....WHne you add it up, it isn't that crazy at all.
        -6S Resident Mechanical Forensics member #001.
        1995 SC2 Turbo 3.6L DOHC, 6sp manual, Ford 8.8 rearend running on MS3x.
        1998 F-250 5.4L triton...stock.

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        • #5
          a

          actually i was thinkin bout gettin the racing intake and tb off of saturn motorsports than gettin head and all port matched...so if the intake is the weak point its all good
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          • #6
            I personally don't care for that intake manifold all that much, and it would throw your TB orientation off, as well as require another one.

            the intake manifold off a 2.0T from a Saab is cast aluminum and will bolt up, and retains the same TB as well.

            I would get headwork as well on any of the heads you go with.

            swapping over an almost complete 2.0T setup, but with an upgraded turbo and possibly better manifold, would be the easiest and most efficient way to go, minus tuning.
            -Vinny

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            • #7
              hmmm

              don't know nuthin bout the 2.0t but interested in it...is it an eco?? n u say the whole thing will drop in an ion eh?? whats it in? i'll have to look into this than
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              • #8
                http://www.sixthsphere.com/forum2/viewt ... highlight=


                um i think there talking about that if not sorry
                Originally posted by ECOtec Gods
                Consider this: 800 hp is a lot on a 2.0L motor. With 750hp, three-quarters of a thousand you're basically dealing with 6.14 hp per cubic inch. Pressures and stresses of all kinds thermal and mechanical loading across the board escalate to extreme levels. A Chevrolet 5.7-liter LS1 V8 with this much specific power (horsepower per cubic inch) would be making 2,137 hp

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                • #9
                  nah, thats the new GXP/solstice motor. The 2.0T is the Saab motor.
                  Jeff W.
                  Old Fella Nobody Remembers

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                  • #10
                    skimming to the last post > me

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                    Originally posted by ECOtec Gods
                    Consider this: 800 hp is a lot on a 2.0L motor. With 750hp, three-quarters of a thousand you're basically dealing with 6.14 hp per cubic inch. Pressures and stresses of all kinds thermal and mechanical loading across the board escalate to extreme levels. A Chevrolet 5.7-liter LS1 V8 with this much specific power (horsepower per cubic inch) would be making 2,137 hp

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                    • #11
                      why even get the redline then?

                      save your money buy a stripped down IOn3(get the 3 for higher speed limiter ) or if this DHP company is coming through just get there PCM and be done with it

                      you have .2 more liters, with the money you saved you can forge the engine with better internals anyway IE arias pistons and crower rods

                      then you don't have to deal with trying to sell that shitty S/C anyway
                      and you won't have to worry about the PCM freacking out becuase you took off the S/C (noones every realizes this).

                      only plus side of the redline is the suspension really.

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                      • #12
                        I wouldremover the blower, and fad up an flange to go in the blower's place. The you could use the stock intercooler and the stock intake manifold. You could also make take the stock heat exchanger and get rid of it. Put a larger one in and place it infront of the a/c condensor.
                        -6S Resident Mechanical Forensics member #001.
                        1995 SC2 Turbo 3.6L DOHC, 6sp manual, Ford 8.8 rearend running on MS3x.
                        1998 F-250 5.4L triton...stock.

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                        • #13
                          i'd go with the redline because of the better suspension and four wheel disc brake, plus a factory car tuned for forced induction...but i think i'm gonna have to wait....i'm goin back to school in fall so i dunno about buyin a new car now....but turboing sumthin si still gonna happen this summer....so guess i gotta go with the ol 1.9
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                          • #14
                            And if you want to buy the mainfold SMS sells just get it from the maker golden eagle and save some money.


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                            • #15
                              hey chris what whats up
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