Turbo on a 3rd gen

[SirSteele]

i am maybe thinkin of going turbo instead of a motor type build, but ive read on turbosaturns about returnless fuel problems on the 3rd gen (2001). has anyone else had to change this or is it ok to turbo just how it is?

[slowion2]

you could put a 97 fuel system on it, last year with teh return line.

aside from that, ports in 99+ are very small in comparison to the earlier years, so they are going to cause a restriction on power. even ported they are the size of 1st and 2nd gen heads at stock size.

[S.Bretz]

Ported, they are still smaller.

[Anonymous]

Ported, they are still smaller.

pure ownage.... just do da head swappy

[sl2racer]

head swap and a return fuel system and you are golden.

[SirSteele]

ok so im wondering you guys make this sound like a piece of cake? how easy is it really, and just so you know i have good automotive knowledge and sodoesmy father ive done everything myself to my car including one engine and two trannies in my last saturn so i can handle stuff like that. also if i got new heads would i need to get 98 intake manifolds and whatnot? is there a tutorial written bout this anywhere? thanks for the quick replies guys and the help. i would love to turbo my car i just wanna make sure i can do it safety and as smoothly as possible.

[AC66Bronco]

ok so im wondering you guys make this sound like a piece of cake? how easy is it really, and just so you know i have good automotive knowledge and sodoesmy father ive done everything myself to my car including one engine and two trannies in my last saturn so i can handle stuff like that. also if i got new heads would i need to get 98 intake manifolds and whatnot? is there a tutorial written bout this anywhere? thanks for the quick replies guys and the help. i would love to turbo my car i just wanna make sure i can do it safety and as smoothly as possible.

im sorry but i thought that said sodomy :backtotopic:

[SirSteele]

lol close but no cigar, im kinda hoping this isnt a hard swap id like to turbo my car.

[sl2racer]

well if your skills allow you to remove the head and put a different fuel rail you should be alright.

[SirSteele]

thats all a new fuel rail i thought it was a whole second fuel line or what not. i can swap and head and rail. anything else i would need?
is there somewhere i could read about this?? thanks again guys.

[S.Bretz]

YOu will need the fuel lines to...and a way to make them work. The fuel system up to 97 had a return line.


IN all honesty, the smaller ports and a small tube manfold will help a turbo spool up a bit faster. The velocity of the exhaust gases is faster threw the smaller piping. Just turbo you current setup and find a solution for adding more fuel.

[saturn_06]

like a megasquirt or safc2??

im still trying to get the safc2 for xmas for the wagon..

im guessing it would help the returnless?

[SirSteele]

ok so please clarify DO I have to chang to a return fuel system or can i just add more fuel to my 2001 heads, bc i would much rather not change anything if i dont have to, and im planning on running the megasquirt and extra injectors if i need to.

[S.Bretz]

If I where you, I would look into and extra injector setup if you plan on using lower boost levels...like nothign ober 9PSI. Over that, I recommend lrger injectors and something like a MS or a standalone.


The 034 EIC (extra injector controller)is suppose to be really good and reliable. If you use one of those, I think you can run 4 extra injectors. ..if it runs 4, then I would try to find some way to safly mount the inectors to the plastic intake manny and call it a day. With 1 extra injector on each port, you can run up to like 20ish psi it tuned right.

[SirSteele]

Lol 20psi i doubt i can hit that. im going for 6-9 psi with a turbonetics t3 and using a megasquirt so should i get bigger injectors and a better fuel pump or those extra injectors.