To go with a cat or not??

[93 Saturn SL2]

Will taking my cat off make my exhaust sound any different or raspier? currently I have 2.25" catback with a 30" thrush glasspack and a Magnaflow straight through muffler and I'll have a OEM header installed as well.

And some guy over a Saturnspot said that he experienced "flames" coming out of his muffler because he was running so rich w/o a cat. Can this ever happen?


Thanks

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

It'll sound like ass. Leave it on.

[93 Saturn SL2]

What if I went with something like this? They're reccomended by the LS1 community.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-25-FLOWMONSTER-Catalytic-Cat-Converter-HIGH-FLOW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33629QQihZ004QQitemZ140061676919QQrdZ1

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

A high flow would be your best option. I'm not sure who makes the best one, or where you should buy it, but you definitely WANT a cat.

[aeroblu22]

i've heard several cars without cats. some sound bad, some sound good. depends on the rest of the exhaust

running without a cat doesn't make your engine richer (i think. it might possibly screw with some sensors and cause that) but i know it does make your exhaust richer, because the cat helps get rid of unburned fuel and other junk.

and ask vinny about flamage

[93 Saturn SL2]

running without a cat doesn't make your engine richer (i think. it might possibly screw with some sensors and cause that) but i know it does make your exhaust richer, because the cat helps get rid of unburned fuel and other junk.

I wasnt saying that running without a cat would make the engine run richer, but because cat gets rid of unburned fuel thats why I asked if it would cause flames to come out of the exhaust or not.


Heres the original thread I was talking about. I guess he had a high flow cat, and Scotty experienced them as well...

http://www.saturnspot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31278&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=cat&start=12

[detroitbass]

My Ecripse doesn't have a cat and it sounds like shit.

[aeroblu22]

Re: To go with a cat or not??

And some guy over a Saturnspot said that he experienced "flames" coming out of his muffler because he was running so rich w/o a cat. Can this ever happen?

sorry, i assumed you were asking about both things there.

but yeah, running without a cat means flames are a definite possibility. which depending on what you want could be considered "very cool" for you or rightly so, usually an annoyance.

and now i have a question about tailpipe flamage on our cars...we are plastic. would the flames be enough to melt the bumper?

[JustinL12086]

I have experienced the flamage :twisted:

[AC66Bronco]

My Ecripse doesn't have a cat and it sounds like shit.

because its an eclipse

dsm ftl

[detroitbass]

My Ecripse doesn't have a cat and it sounds like shit.

because its an eclipse

dsm ftl

oh ok, how foolish of me [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[slowion2]

It'll sound like ass. Leave it on.

not if the exhaust is a decent setup, it'll just be louder

on most, it will make it louder and higher pitched, but not all

you can get a flame out of a car with a cat, just has to be rich enough and flow enough. it's just more evident with no cat from less restriction. I know Geo does it when on it. mine does, a lot more often when under nitrous. it used to before though out the exhaust bypass when I did have the cat from the rich mixture.

I would suggest a small glasspack in place of the cat, so you've got something to quiet down the sound without the restriction.

I was suprised, mine just got louder but doesn't sound nearly as bad as I thought, still smooth too, but then again that's mainly from the exhaust system.

[REDFOCZ]

On my old focus it did'nt sound bad at all just loud. It all depends on you exhaust if you have a good muffler and resantor. My old exhaust was a full 2.25 exhaust, flex pipe and a race header with no cat.

[The Shaolin]

It also makes your exhaust smell like shit.

just run it, it's $50.

[classic plastic]

Back when I had my other saturn I had a 2.25 cat back and a magnaflow muffler and no resonator, when I cut the cat off it was a good bit louder but it still sounded good.