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    So..... i am thinking i will have enough money come spring time to rebuild my engine. I'm going to be running an N/A setup for a while, at least a year. Now i need some suggestions on whether it would be worth it to rebuild my block with stock pistons and rings. I have 130K right now and i drive A LOT. I do want to get an SDA P&P head and put all new fancy shiny stuff in that no matter what. So should i run the stock block for a lot more miles until i build my turbo block or rebuild for now? maybe i should just keep the whole thing stock till i go turbo? think its worth it?
    98 SL2m - Intake, Raceland coilovers, daily driver
    94 SW2a>m - slammed and boosted 9 PSI - sloppymechanics.com inspired. Now owned by Importsdontlikeme.
    94 SC2m - Build in progress, Ford EDIS, 720cc's, stock engine, MS2v3.57 7 on the road again

  • #2
    Well if you do the engine that will cost you alot more, that's if you are letting a shop do all the work. But if you are doing a possible turbo build, then piston size could be a factor to future boost.

    I'm doing a N/A mock up right now, and it's proving to be quite challenging getting it planned out. You should look at cost now and how much you would be spending in the future. If you do the whole engine now, you won't be spending as much money later on when it comes time to go turbo. So you would be splitting up your cost alot more effeciently if you do a complete engine rebuild now instead of when you go to boost.

    If you want to effectively budget your build in stages try to plan it this way.

    Part 1: engine rebuild
    Part 2: engine tuning equipment
    Part 3: Boost

    If you do it this way, you should be able to judge your cost more effeciently and at the proper time. Hopefully you've done your reading and know that this is a very broad planning platform, because each part can run up easily past 2k and rightfully should if you are in this for the long run.

    Doing a complete engine rebuild would be to do now rather than later. Because you do have a hi mileage car and it is time to be thinking about the major maintenance tasks. I had my tranny rebuilt at 95k because I love to drive my car. I decided it was also the best time to do my upgrades on that part as well because it would save me in labor costs. So I had them install a P/G and and ACT-6 at that time as well. Hopefully, I didn't go off on a tangent and made this more than I should have. I apologize if I did. [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/lol.gif[/img]
    Fixing a Saturn can be like reaching into a bag of scorpions and hoping for the tootsie roll.

    AMR coilovers w/pillowball mounts, AMR FTB, AMR RST, Quaife, ACT clutch, HR con rods with JPC max bore pistons, Thermal exhaust, Hotshot header, AEM CAI, and I just want to run around tearing my cloths off, screaming beligerently, and spitting, and twitching, and foaming; because its finally done.

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    • #3
      its simple. If you want boost, don't buy NA stuff. Buy boost stuff, or buy nothing at all.

      EDIT: Remember, if you do decide to buy stuff for boost, its prolly gonna suck while running NA. IE a low comp boost motor with turbo cams etc. is gonna run crappy NA

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      • #4
        just run the car the way it is till you have an ass load of money first.
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        1996 383 lt1 auto trans am
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        • #5
          Snag a spare engine and build it up as time and $$$ permit.



          Jim

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          • #6
            Always a good idea, but only if you have the space.
            Fixing a Saturn can be like reaching into a bag of scorpions and hoping for the tootsie roll.

            AMR coilovers w/pillowball mounts, AMR FTB, AMR RST, Quaife, ACT clutch, HR con rods with JPC max bore pistons, Thermal exhaust, Hotshot header, AEM CAI, and I just want to run around tearing my cloths off, screaming beligerently, and spitting, and twitching, and foaming; because its finally done.

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            • #7
              Too true, having a room dedicated to my engine/tranny rebuilds makes it much easier.



              Jim

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              <br />I have opposable thumbs I WILL prevail

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              • #8
                Lucky bastard. I would have two engines on standby if I had the room.
                Fixing a Saturn can be like reaching into a bag of scorpions and hoping for the tootsie roll.

                AMR coilovers w/pillowball mounts, AMR FTB, AMR RST, Quaife, ACT clutch, HR con rods with JPC max bore pistons, Thermal exhaust, Hotshot header, AEM CAI, and I just want to run around tearing my cloths off, screaming beligerently, and spitting, and twitching, and foaming; because its finally done.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jamie Q.
                  Lucky bastard. I would have two engines on standby if I had the room.
                  Thats the plan.



                  Jim

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                  <br />I have opposable thumbs I WILL prevail

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                  • #10
                    so.... say if i decide just to go with a new head for now and leave the block alone, then when i get a turbo block built, i swap the head onto that. think that'd be a smirt idea?

                    i'll for sure wait to put a new block in cause i don't want to be running LC pistons NA. that would be crappy.

                    EDIT: since i'm heading towards high mileage, i'll be putting new rings in, but leaving the rest alone while i have the engine apart. also new timing chain.
                    98 SL2m - Intake, Raceland coilovers, daily driver
                    94 SW2a>m - slammed and boosted 9 PSI - sloppymechanics.com inspired. Now owned by Importsdontlikeme.
                    94 SC2m - Build in progress, Ford EDIS, 720cc's, stock engine, MS2v3.57 7 on the road again

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Madcat
                      Originally posted by Jamie Q.
                      Lucky bastard. I would have two engines on standby if I had the room.
                      Thats the plan.



                      Jim
                      [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/asshole.gif[/img]
                      Fixing a Saturn can be like reaching into a bag of scorpions and hoping for the tootsie roll.

                      AMR coilovers w/pillowball mounts, AMR FTB, AMR RST, Quaife, ACT clutch, HR con rods with JPC max bore pistons, Thermal exhaust, Hotshot header, AEM CAI, and I just want to run around tearing my cloths off, screaming beligerently, and spitting, and twitching, and foaming; because its finally done.

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                      • #12
                        [quote="Jamie Q."]
                        Originally posted by Madcat
                        Originally posted by Jamie Q.
                        Lucky bastard. I would have two engines on standby if I had the room.
                        Thats the plan.



                        Jim
                        :lol: :lol: [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif[/img]



                        Jim

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                        <br />I have opposable thumbs I WILL prevail

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                        • #13
                          ive got space to build and set aside at least 10 motors, here in about 30 days. ive got 2 motors right now. but i need space for all the other parts ive got.


                          but anyways, dont touch the engine you have now. it will save time, and some money. this is if you TRULY will build a turbo car. just about everyone on the forums say they are going to do so but never do. they kept spending money on worthless stuff. if boost is for real, think about the future, not what you want now. that way you want have to wait longer for parts you cant get because you spent money on something else now.

                          if the future will be boost, just maintain the car as it is now, and save for what will be.
                          Ian---The Fat Ass

                          1995 SL2-High compression engine FOR SALE
                          2010 Chevy Cobalt SS- tuned with plenty of goodness
                          2002 SC2-New daily
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