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  • Looking into new wires and coils...

    Alright....i've got my exhaust done (yay!). By the way, I wanna say thanks to everyone who had input on that because it turned out great.

    I've been considering getting some new wires...since mine have never been replaced....and i think new wires would be a good thing to do....and new coils. The ones i was considering were MSD wires and coils. They seem pretty good, and i know a lot of people have them....but I just wanted some input on what you all thought about those 2 products?

    Have there been any major problems associated with them being used in saturns or no? If not, then I'm pretty positive that I'll be getting those. I have a 99 sl2 by the way. Thanks.
    SL2 a granny car? Hell no.
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    <br />Corey STC- MI
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    <br />My Ride: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/682730

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    Replacing your old wires is certainly a good idea and plugs too. As for the coils, I have been told by many that aftermarket coils are very similar to stock coilpacks and to replace them for no other reason is not worth it.

    I originally replaced my old OEM coils with Accels (do NOT use Accel, they are junk) and even though people told me Accel were not good I went with them anyway and sure enough, 8 months down the road, one of the Accel coils took a dump on me.

    About that time I decided to add nitrous to the car and wanted my ignition to be in top shape for that so at that time I purchased the MSD coils (along with the MSD interface and the MSD DIS-2) and they have been great, I have had them on the car for over two years and no trouble.

    On a mostly stock setup, you probably won't notice any difference in aftermarket coils but the wires/plugs i would definately recommend. I have the MSD 8.5mm wires and NGK(colder plugs now) or Denso plugs. you will of course, get 50 different opinions on plugs lol.

    my .02
    1993 SW2 - Slow and Low

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Plastic Fury
      Replacing your old wires is certainly a good idea and plugs too. As for the coils, I have been told by many that aftermarket coils are very similar to stock coilpacks and to replace them for no other reason is not worth it.

      I originally replaced my old OEM coils with Accels (do NOT use Accel, they are junk) and even though people told me Accel were not good I went with them anyway and sure enough, 8 months down the road, one of the Accel coils took a dump on me.

      About that time I decided to add nitrous to the car and wanted my ignition to be in top shape for that so at that time I purchased the MSD coils (along with the MSD interface and the MSD DIS-2) and they have been great, I have had them on the car for over two years and no trouble.

      On a mostly stock setup, you probably won't notice any difference in aftermarket coils but the wires/plugs i would definately recommend. I have the MSD 8.5mm wires and NGK(colder plugs now) or Denso plugs. you will of course, get 50 different opinions on plugs lol.

      my .02
      Alright that sounds good...thanks for the input. Yeah I did see another thread where it talked a lot about the plugs and such...mine are fairly new, so I don't know if i'll bother with them, but i'll check them out.
      SL2 a granny car? Hell no.
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      <br />Corey STC- MI
      <br />
      <br />My Ride: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/682730

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      • #4
        i told you so last night... oh ye of little faith

        you can take anything seann says as good info too

        hes a smart fucker and i am glad that my car has been graced by his touch. lol drunk fuck
        Originally posted by ECOtec Gods
        Consider this: 800 hp is a lot on a 2.0L motor. With 750hp, three-quarters of a thousand you're basically dealing with 6.14 hp per cubic inch. Pressures and stresses of all kinds thermal and mechanical loading across the board escalate to extreme levels. A Chevrolet 5.7-liter LS1 V8 with this much specific power (horsepower per cubic inch) would be making 2,137 hp

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AC66Bronco
          hes a smart fucker and i am glad that my car has been graced by his touch. lol drunk fuck
          Uhhh, excuse me but I do believe that YOUR vehicle backed into mine sir or at least my car was not moving upon collision lol.
          1993 SW2 - Slow and Low

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AC66Bronco
            i told you so last night... oh ye of little faith

            you can take anything seann says as good info too

            hes a smart fucker and i am glad that my car has been graced by his touch. lol drunk fuck
            Yeah i know, thanks for your input andy as well....lol....just wanted a few more opinions.
            SL2 a granny car? Hell no.
            <br />
            <br />Corey STC- MI
            <br />
            <br />My Ride: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/682730

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Plastic Fury
              Originally posted by AC66Bronco
              hes a smart fucker and i am glad that my car has been graced by his touch. lol drunk fuck
              Uhhh, excuse me but I do believe that YOUR vehicle backed into mine sir or at least my car was not moving upon collision lol.
              it nevah happend that way its just the alcohol distorting your perception of reality [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/wink.gif[/img]

              its all good corey just given ya some shit
              Originally posted by ECOtec Gods
              Consider this: 800 hp is a lot on a 2.0L motor. With 750hp, three-quarters of a thousand you're basically dealing with 6.14 hp per cubic inch. Pressures and stresses of all kinds thermal and mechanical loading across the board escalate to extreme levels. A Chevrolet 5.7-liter LS1 V8 with this much specific power (horsepower per cubic inch) would be making 2,137 hp

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              • #8
                Any other opinions? Especially on the coils? I'm pretty set on the wires...just want to know if the coils work good for the saturns or not without too many problems.
                SL2 a granny car? Hell no.
                <br />
                <br />Corey STC- MI
                <br />
                <br />My Ride: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/682730

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Plastic Fury
                  Originally posted by AC66Bronco
                  hes a smart fucker and i am glad that my car has been graced by his touch. lol drunk fuck
                  Uhhh, excuse me but I do believe that YOUR vehicle backed into mine sir or at least my car was not moving upon collision lol.
                  ROFL....ya drunk ass shit driving bastids. That was too funny.



                  stick with the stock coils.
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                  • #10
                    ive run msd coils without issue. the only problem i had was the ignition module has a lip on it for the 1-4 coil and when i bolted the coil down, i broke the bottom of it. night repairs ftl!!!! had to cut the lip off and all was good after having to replace the coil again.

                    dont use accel coils!!!!!! stock ones will be perfectly fine for you. msd coils have worked for several people. some, im not sure if they used them, but they say there are issues. most people take word from people saying "aftermarket coils" and think all are junk. but so far the msds have done great, but accels are junk.

                    so yeah if your stock coils work, stick with them.
                    Ian---The Fat Ass

                    1995 SL2-High compression engine FOR SALE
                    2010 Chevy Cobalt SS- tuned with plenty of goodness
                    2002 SC2-New daily
                    2017 Kawasaki Ninja 650 KRT- got a stupid deal
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                    • #11
                      i had accel coils, then went to MSD's. They both shat out on me unfortunately. could have been the way that I F-ed them up--->put the wrong kind of grease on the MSD coils, so I think that's where most of the problems came from(me stupid=bearing grease=BAD). I'm going to maybe try a pair of SPS ones, or get a new set of MSD's. yep.

                      Also, i have bosch wires on my car, don't remember what kind of plugs. No regrets there.
                      98 SL2m - Intake, Raceland coilovers, daily driver
                      94 SW2a>m - slammed and boosted 9 PSI - sloppymechanics.com inspired. Now owned by Importsdontlikeme.
                      94 SC2m - Build in progress, Ford EDIS, 720cc's, stock engine, MS2v3.57 7 on the road again

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                      • #12
                        Alright, thanks for the extra input everyone. My ignition has been working fine....so I think i'm just gonna get the wires and be set with that. If my ignition goes out on me, maybe i'll get the new coils...but MSD wires looks like the way i'll be going.
                        SL2 a granny car? Hell no.
                        <br />
                        <br />Corey STC- MI
                        <br />
                        <br />My Ride: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/682730

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                        • #13
                          Alright....runnin into sort of a problem.

                          I'm looking for the MSD wires as you all know....but i can't find them for a 1999 SL2. Every website i've been on list the MSD #32539 for the years 96-98....except on the Saturn Motorsports website....lists that part number for the years of 96-02.

                          So, those of you know for sure, or who have MSD sparkplug wires on a 1999 SL2, what part number did you get? Thanks again.
                          SL2 a granny car? Hell no.
                          <br />
                          <br />Corey STC- MI
                          <br />
                          <br />My Ride: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/682730

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                          • #14
                            MSD Coils FTW. I have been running mine for about a year now and have not had any problems.

                            I would also like to know the part number for the MSD wires. FYI.

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                            • #15
                              wires are wires, they'll still fit

                              honestly though, you don't have a need for any crazy low resistance wires and replacement coils, most people don't.
                              -Vinny

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